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Now that Pip is 21, he is a man in this culture. He is now in charge of his own money. How well do you think he will handle that responsibility?
Pip expected to find out who his benefactor was on his 21st birthday. What possible motivation would the benefactor have for not making this revelation to Pip?
Does Wemmick provide sound advice concerning Pip's desire to help Herbert out? What advice do you think he would have given if her were at Walworth?
11 comments:
I think that now that Pip has experienced debt that he will be more conscious of his spending habits. However I also think that he will try to be a good friend to Herbert and do what Wemmick said and lose money by investing into Herbert. I think that Wemmick's advice made sense but I also think that if he were at Walworth he would not have been so straight forward and depressing about it. I think it was slightly surprising that Jagger's did not reveal Pip's benefactor yet for his 21st birthday. However, I think he did this so that he would not have to take control of Pip while he is in debt. I would let him get out of debt then grow up a little more with his decisions before I would expose myself
Now that Pip has gotten to the age of 21, I feel as though he's going to start being a bit smarter with his money. He's experienced what debt can be like: he legitimently cared for his friend Herbert when he came into debt by following Pip's spending habbits. I agree completely with Robin in the fact that Pip's benefactor would rather have Pip mature before revealing himself. Pip needs to figure out on his own how to manage and use his money, I personally wouldn't take credit for giving someone money if they wasted it all. It'd look bad on the benefactor if Pip continuously acts foolish. I'd wait for a bit more maturity too.
I have to disagree, I think Pip's previous financial mistakes and bad spending habbits forshadow him making a much bigger mistake in reguard to managing his money. I also think that investing in Herbert may not be the soundest bet and may hurt Pip financially, but that morally it is what Pip needs to do (especially since he kicked most of his morals to the curb after moving out... one can hope he steps it up).
Why the benefactor doesn't reveal himself or herself stumps me. I stick by my thought that it's too obvious to be Miss Havisham, but who else would feel the need to keep it a secret at this point? It crossed my mind that they could not be around to reveal themselves (traveling, dead). Or maybe they just don't think Pip is mature enough yet to know the truth. If this is the case, they must know Pip on a personal level, and this intrigues me even more.
My first thought was that Pip's a man now, he's 21 and he can go crazy! But then my second thought was that he already has! I think Pip will mellow out now that he's getting older, plus with his debt he should be a bit wiser. A possible motivation for the benefactor for not reveling him or herself is that maybe they are afraid of Pip's reaction if he found out. I also thought that Wemmick's advice was concrete. It had truth in it even though he delivered it harshly. If Wemmick had given the advice at Walworth I think he would have been nicer about it but have said the same thing.
Pip just seems so foolish to me! He just has a tendency to really irritate me, and so far with the way he spends his money, he hasn't been using his head. However, with his wanting to help Herbert out with money does show that Pip is now thinking about his money and where it's going rather than simply spending it. I'm not really sure why Pip's benefactor didn't reveal himself to Pip when Pip turned 21. Other than waiting for Pip to mature more than 21 is really the only motivation that I can think of. Wemmick's advice is valid, though I think that if Wemmick had been at Walworth, he would have been less frank and more personable about the situatoin with Herbert.
I think Pip will mature more now that he's older and be more cautious with his money. He's experienced what debt is like, and hopefully he'll learn and stay away from it. I think his benefactor didn't reveal themself because of Pip's debt and maturity problems. I think parents do a similar thing with us kids growing up. Once we graduate and get out in the real world they try to step back and let us make our own mistakes and only help when we get in over our heads with problems.
I can understand where Wemmick is coming from with his advice for Pip not to help Herbert out, but I think the way he was so forward about it was kind of cold. I don't think he would've given that advice if he were at Walworth, I think he would've been nicer about it and advised Pip to help Herbert out a little.
I think Pip will be able to handle his money more responsibly. He was in debt and I think that kind of thing will make a person more cautious. I think it's a nice thing that Pip was wanting to help Herbert. It shows that he's not only just thinking of himself. He may also want to repay him for helping him out before. As for the reason why Pip's benefactor won't reveal herself or himself, I can't find out a suitable reason why they wouldn't. Jaggers of course is no help at all, but I guess it really isn't his choice to tell Pip. I feel like if it's the obvious assumption of Miss Havisham, it could have something to do with Estella and Pip's relationship.
I do not see why Pip would start being smart with his money now knowing his history of mismanagement. Just because in this society we attribute turning 21 to becoming a man and becoming more mature does not mean that Pip will all of a sudden become responsible and start spending his money wisely. Pip’s benefactor probably does not want to reveal himself to Pip until he/she believes that Pip has matured. I think that Wemmick gives Pip fairly good advice about helping Herbert because if Pip just tries to give Herbert the money most likely Herbert will refuse to take it and even if he does it will probably impact their friendship.
I agree with Myranda and Kyle that Pip is not going to be any better any managing his money now that he is 21. His debt and financial mistakes in the past show that he is not careful with his money, and just because he turns 21 does not mean he is instantly going to start watching his finances. I think that maybe the gift he received on his birthday and the money he is going to start receiving is a test from his benefactor. Pip now has a limited amount of money and he is going to be completely in charge of his own finances. Maybe his benefactor is testing Pip to see if he is going to start spending the money wisely so that he doesn’t fall into even more debt. This could be testing Pip to see if he is mature enough to receive the full inheritance and is not going to spend it all right away. If this is the case, I understand why the Benefactor has not revealed his/her identity to Pip. I am still convinced that the benefactor is not Miss Havisham because it would be too obvious. I think that the benefactor is going to be someone completely unexpected.
I feel like Pip is going to do what we all do when we receive a large amount of money: spend it quickly. He has never consumed such a large amount and, similar to myself, he will continue to spend because he believes that he still has so much left. He has in fact matured, but not completely. I believe this will just be another mistake he will learn from. Like said above, he has never been careful with his money. Those little financial issues is a foreshadow to the large one he is about to make.
I may be naive, but I think the benefactor is not revealing his/her identity to Pip because he/she thinks that Pip will feel a debt to him/her. This person wanted Pip to be successful and sacrificed his/her money so that he could be so.
Pip has definitely shown lack of responsibility and maturity when dealing with money. I think that now he will make better choices, not because he is a man or turned 21, but because he witnessed his mistakes. We say learn from other people's mistakes or take others' advice, but honestly, there are certain things that people cannot/do not understand or grasp until they screw up themselves. After the previous mistakes, I think the benefactor might be refraining from the revelation, just in case he/she decides to change his/her mind, and realize that Pip does not deserve the fortune. Wemmick's advice is legally and logically sound. It is spoken like the words of the rich mentality (not caring about anyone, and working to increase fortune). Although, it really seems like Wemmick would, in fact, give the total opposite advice at Walworth.
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