Outside of the content of this chapter, focus on the point of view. It is the point of view of Almondine, the family dog, but the point of view is filtered through the narrator. What problems might this narration cause? What benefits might this narration have? Who is the narrator of this chapter? [Not exactly, but what
type of character might the narrator be?]
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This type of narration filter is bad because when it's filtered your not getting the whole view that you necessarily want, your also losing parts of the others narration. The narrator kind of goes from a few different people without setting on one person in my opinion.
A problem that this type of narration might cause is confusion. It confused me in the beginning and I didn't understand whose point of view it was. It didn't make sense what was going on and seemed to jump right in. Another problem would be that we don't get the full picture and we don't know how everyone else is feeling or how they were reacting to everything. A benefit this narration has is that it really puts it in perspective for us how animals can sense things and can know something is up. I feel like the narrator is either another one of the dogs, or the baby itself.
I found this chapter to be very confusing and irritating after I had to re-read the first few pages a couple of times because I did not understand it. I slowly realized that it was written from Almondine’s point of view, but some of it was filtered through. This caused a lot of confusion and I still feel that a lot of information is missing. Although it was frustrating trying to figure out who the narrator was, the view of Almondine showed me how much love and compassion Almondine has for her owners. It also shows how she was able to tell that there was something wrong with Edgar when Edgar’s parents were talking to the doctor. I believe that the narrator of this chapter is someone we have not met yet in the novel. It could be either another human, or an animal.
This type of narration is really confusing and I am not sure how I feel about it. I get really confused on what point of view it is and who is doing the narrating. It jumps right in and information is being put to the side so you can't really get the full picture. As I kept reading, I feel like we may be missing a character, so the narrator is someone we haven't met or another animal.
To be honest, I did not appreciate this form of narration for many reasons. My main reason is that I think that it is a “no –no” to show a view point of an animal, even if it is omniscient by another, unless they are personified in a fable or unrealistic children’s story. Along with this, I think that it is too soon to introduce Almondine solely by her name. Most readers would not be acquainted with her yet, and the mentions of the dogs earlier would bring confusion. Lastly, I believe that the only goals of an animal are to please their master, eat food, and to extricate themselves; they are not too worried about finding themselves or solving a lingering problem. In that case, I think it makes up a bland story if the main tale is that of an animal.
The narrator filter’s Almondine’s point of view and this could cause problems because the narrator doesn’t know what Almondine is always thinking, the narrator can only make an educated guess. This kind of narration can also cause confusion because you can lose some information because the point of view is being filtered and told by the narrator. The benefit to this narration is that you can see slightly into Almondine’s thoughts and see how she fits into the story and why she’s so important.
This narration doesn't always give all information. It could leave out things. It also makes it more difficult to relate to the characters in the story because even though it's from their point of view, it's not them speaking and telling their story. A good thing about this type of narration is it makes it easier to transition from person to person because there are so many characters to keep tabs on in this book. Personally, I think it makes it less confusing. Specifically in this chapter, it gives us a chance to see Almondine's love and loyalty and how she shows it and in what ways she's capable of showing it.
This narration style definitely has its upsides, like its ability to almost micro-manage in a way. It has a meta-story feel to it, as if the narrator is more of an onlooker. While dogs are low-intelligence compared to humans and do not feel emotions like we do, Almondine's perspective was still filtered with English and description. I enjoyed this type for the time being. It lightly put me on the ground with the family, and honestly did not feel too far from the first style.
The point of view of a novel can greatly affect the feel of the story. Thus far, the novel comes across as very serious, realistic, and mature. Because of this, presenting the chapter in an animal's point of view would not "fit in" aptly. The third person narration is used to present the next segment of Edgar's back-story as well as Almondine's thoughts and rationale in a mature and interesting way. One flaw with this method is that we cannot be with Trudy and Gar as they leave their homestead to birth Edgar, and thus miss out on a potentially strong, emotional moment.
All of a sudden the novel jumped from humans' perspective, to a dog's. This was very confusing and I feel it does not sit well with the seriousness of the rest of the book so far. On the upside, having a point of view spoken for Almondine shows how smart and loving she is for Edgar and his parents. Almondine is going to look out for Edgar because of his disablitly. I hope this novel does not have a "Where the Red Fern Grows" ending.
I really enjoyed reading from the perspective of Almondine. It was pretty cool figuring out information the same way a dog did. This way of storytelling changes up the normal ways of literature and I believe there are more benefits to this point of view than problems. First of all, I am not a “dog lover” but I do know how much dogs care about their owners. I feel that during this chapter the reader could tell Almondine is sort of like a protector for Edgar. I think throughout the novel Almondine and Edgar will have a great connection. Next, I loved how the reader found out with Almondine that Edgar doesn’t have a voice. Another thing that was interesting in this chapter was the way Almondine communicated with the other dogs at the home. I hope that there are more sections in this book that include the narration of Almondine or any of the other dogs.
I enjoyed reading the novel from Almondine’s point of view. Though, this type of narration did confuse me and I had to reread portions to fully understand what was happening. I can see that I wasn’t the only one to have confusion on this. I wish this would have been clearer because Almondine is my favorite character and I would have enjoyed to hear more of her thoughts.
Having Almondine as the narrator is interesting, but not as expansive as the point of view of a person. Almondine is has a very different point of view, being, what she sees, and smells, but animals are hard to read. We don't really ever know what they're thinking, and i guess a person as the narrator is...safe. We can communicate what we are thinking to eachother, where dogs are in kind of a "glass box". There seems to be a wall blocking our communication with them.
This narration is confusing because we're trying to get to know the story and it's being told in one persons perspective and then all of a sudden it changes up and starts to be told in the dog, Almondine's, perspective. It is very confusing to catch on and stay on track to what is actually happening in the book. On the other hand, we get to see into the mind of Almondine and get a glimpse of the future and of how important and close she'll be to Edgar.
I think having Almondine narrate this chapter is interesting. Throughout the other chapters you can get a sense of what she thinks by her actions but in this chapter you can get a sense of the thoughts she has throughout actions. The later chapter also called Almondine gives us another look into her feelings and it shows us how terribly left out she feels without Edgar's father. Her perspective gave us a whole new look of her feelings which we wouldn't have seen without that chapter. I can see how this sudden switch may cause confusion but I think it gives more depth to the story.
The problem with this narration is that it is confusing, as you lose some parts of what is being said. It also takes away from the main story from the narrator for a bit. This chapter was hard to jump right into, because it was a random switch of point of view. Although, after understanding it was Almondine and reading it over, it started to make more sense. I think it is important that we see things through Almondine's view because we get a different insight to what is going on at the Sawtelle's. I think that was foreshadowing how close Almondine and Edgar will become as he grows up. It was also interesting to me that we found out Edgar was mute for the first time via Almondine. Almondine feels like she needs to look after him now more than ever.
This point of view is very difficult to maintain a perfect clear picture of what is happening in the story. Details feel left out and you don't get to understand how everyone else is feeling. It was a very sudden shift and definitely left some questions unanswered. However, seeing the story line develop in a dogs perspective is very interesting. The narration really accents his sights and smells and focuses on how a dog would see the situation. It is a unique change that I'm not sure if I enjoyed.
The chapter Almondine was confusing, but an intriguing twist.I found it very strange that the narrator had Almondine asking inanimate objects for help. Even though this chapter was weird, we find out Almondine, the dog, is a very important part to the family. When Trudy and Gar put Almondine in the pen with the other dogs, she starts to feel sad and you can tell she is vulnerable. This chapter really gives the point of view from the dog's eyes and shows how much she cares for the Sawtelles. It was odd for the author to go for an animal's perspective, but it definitely showed another unique point of view.
Some problems that were caused by this were at points you didn't really know who was talking. It would have been easier if it was actually Almondine's thoughts, not her thoughts filtered through the narrator. I think since it was filtered through the narrator you lost the sense of connection with Almondine. It wasn't the personal connection you usually have with a character, it was just like being told some information. It wasn't a personal connection, it was more of a story told by an outside character.
I found this filtered point of view/narration to be very confusing and frustrating. It was hard for me to follow, and it didn't exactly show the whole picture. It would have been easier to follow if it wasn't a combination of third-person narration, and Almondine's thoughts.
Despite the confusion this point of view caused, I thought it was very interesting to sort of feel the emotions felt and the things that were noticed by Almondine, the things she caught on to going on around her. "Eventually, she understood the house was keeping a secret from her." It shows that she is more than just another kennel dog, she's part of the family.
This type of narration was very irritating and confusing. It was difficult to understand at first, but then I realized part of the point of view was through Almondine. With the filtered point of view, it could leave certain details or they could be blurred with two different aspects. Also, you lose the connection you have between Almondine since there it is filtered.
One benefit is you realize how important Almondine is to the family. She isn't another dog, but she means something more to Edgar.
This narration was frustrating. I didn't see the point of having the "thoughts" of an animal. Yes, some animals are very intelligent but not to the point of conscious thought. I understood it was a dog but the chapter, in my opinion, was pointless. It was confusing and didn't give the whole story on what was happening with the Sawtelles.
This type of narration allows for readers to experience a glimpse of the thoughts of Almondine, the family dog. In many ways, this is beneficial. If this narration was not present at all, readers would likely have almost no clue as to what Almondine is feeling or thinking. On the flipside, this narration only offers a non-direct, somewhat cryptic view of Almondine's thoughts. Although this narration seems to be prone to causing confusion, I found it interesting to read from a dog's point of view. I would doubt that the narrator is actually a character at all, but simply a non-present narrator. If the narrator was an actual character, why would this character not interact with any of the other characters in any way?
The type of narrating that this novel has can be slightly confusing because at times it is hard to distinguish who is telling this part of the story. Having Almondine as a narrator can be helpful cause it shows that she really is part of the Swatelle family. But having an animal as a narrator can be confusing because at times she is so single minded that you can miss important details or have ethem be blurred and hard to understand. I can tell why the author would like to use Almondine as a narrator because the books is surrounded by dogs that it could be helpful to see their side, but it does nothing for me unfortunately.
This narration frustrated me because I feel that because of the shift in narration I missed out on seeing what the rest of the family was feeling. Even though this chapter was a little hard to follow I did enjoy the change because it shows that Almondine is important to the Sawtelle family, and that she has a connection with Edgar. Throughout this chapter, however, it was hard to tell the difference between what thoughts were Almondine's and which thoughts were Edgar's, becuase it was filtered through his thoughts. I feel that because this chapter was filtered through the narrator's thoughts that you lost that connection with Almondine.
The only problem that I found present was how the story is told through Almondine’s experience with the baby, but it was told by the mysterious narrator, not Almondine herself. It explains what happened throughout the chapter but it didn’t tell me what was going on in her mind, to me the narrator only speculated what she was thinking. Although it proved its purpose, it still left me questions as to who is telling the story. This story is starting to flirt with a “participant narration” rather than the regular third person point of view. I bet it’s Ida Paine the witch-doctor lady.
The big problem with the point of view of Almondine being filtered through a narrator is that you're not getting the exact thoughts of the character. Instead of the character telling you what they feel, a narrator is telling you what a character feels. The good thing is that the narrator knows everything including things the characters don't know. The story is being told in third person point of view.
I don't really like the fact that Almondine's point of view is being told by some mysterious narrator. Although Almondine's a dog, she still has thoughts and feelings that should be expressed by herself. Also, the story is being told in third person.
The perspective of this chapter is third-person limited, because the narrator says "she" rather than "I" when referring to Almondine, yet the narrator still knows Almondine's thoughts and feelings. I think this kind of narration is better than first-person, because it's easier to determine who is narrating earlier on in the chapter because it says Almondine's name right in the second sentence (as opposed to saying "I" and not knowing immediately who was narrating). Although it was kind of awkward to suddenly be reading from the perspective of a dog and not be knowing much of anything else that was going on, I do think the fact that it's in third-person limited helps to clarify just exactly what I'm reading right away.
At first i just thought this chapter was confusing. After rereading it I realized that, although confusing, this chapter is crucial. It shows the strong connection Edgar and Almondine have, and how fast it developed. Although only a dog, she's more than that to the Sawtelles. In the first paragraph of the next chapter, "Signs", The narrator expressed how each family member worries for Edgar; Almondine worries whenever she doesn't have Edgar in her sight. I feel that Almondine was curious and worried about Edgar, leading to her spending a lot of time with him and developing the bond they have.
This narration style is more flawed than it is helpful. It took me a while to realize that it was through the dogs point of view. I found it odd and not very helpful. A dog in this story isn't a character that can hold much development and I find it silly to have to go through the whole process. It would be much easier to understand if dogs thoughts weren't being expressed through the narrator, but through the dog. At this part of the book, a change of point of view would have been greatly appreciated.
This style of narration indeed has its upsides and downsides. We find out that the novel is written from Almondine's point of view but is in a way filtered and causes us to miss out on some information. This is the main reason for confusion. That being the negative, we continue to the positive; It becomes easier to transition from person to person. Thus far we are introduced to many different characters and being able to transition throughout them is cruicial.
I wasn't so sure about this kind of narration. I was extremely confused at first and really didn;t understand the briefness. I did like the idea of hearing Almondine's thoughts. Although I don't really know what she was thinking because it kept switching from third person to Almondine's thoughts, I had the feeling that she was really apart of the family. Not just the dog.
This type of narration can cause bias, as the narrator is clearly not a dog. The narrator could not know how a dog thinks, making the view completely unrealistic. On the other hand it may make Almondine seem to be a much more developed character than just a dog with no personality. Narrating it this way makes Almondine seem much more caring, especially for Edgar. The narrator may be someone with a dream to understand dogs.
The problem with this narration is that is can leave out some of the information causing confusion. It makes you think that the story took a turn and you're not entirely sure what is happening. Although it may be confusing, after I caught on, I enjoyed getting to see things through Alomdine’s eyes. It really shows that she cares and that she is apart of the family.
The main problem of the narrator's filtration is that the narrator could have screened things that Almondine thought and felt. The narrator just tells the story how he or she wants to tell it. The advantages of the filtration are that the narrator can add details and emotions to the scene that Almondine isn't able to share with the reader. The narration is a light transition into the novel so that the reader can understand the characters more thoroughly. The narrator must be some sort of onlooker nwho was there through the entire story. He or she was never a major part, but they always knew what was happening.
I was not a big fan of this chapter. I was really confused throughout the first couple pages until I realized it was supposed to be Almondine’s view. Although it isn’t actually from the view of the dog, which can cause problems because the reader isn’t getting the big picture. I understand that Almondine is a main character, but if the narration was through the dog’s point of view in first person it would be less confusing and more enjoyable.
The problems that this narration could cause are that it could confuse the reader, and slur some information. Clearly it is from the dog's point of view, but someone else is telling the story. You aren't getting the full effect of the dog's mind. It'd be like someone else trying to tell a story for you. The benefits are that things can be obviously be pointed out. The reader will get the benefit of knowing what exact information is trying to be relayed. The narration is in 3rd person, but it is hard to tell who it is. Why would the narrator be able to tell us all of this information, but now reveal their identity throughout the story?
I feel that a human narrator portraying the point of view of a dog wouldn't come across as strongly to the reader, and that they wouldn't really feel like they are looking into the head of a dog. However, there are benefits as well, because the narrator can go into depth more without confusing the reader. I'm not sure who the narrator is, but I think it's third person point of view.
The narrator is a human but from the point of view belonging to Almondine, the family pet. While the narration created some confusion, I enjoyed this chapter. I liked seeing the family through the eyes of their dog. I would definitely not what the whole book to be from Almondine's point of view because it would create mass confusion and understanding characters would be hard since she is a dog interacting with humans and not a human interacting with humans.
This chapter was a bit interesting, but at the same point I found it a bit confusing.The main reason I found it confusing was how the author filtered it, and didn't give all the information Almondine had to give the reader. It was a really good try by the author to try to give the reader a different perspective, but he shouldn't have filtered it so much that the readers become confused on who is thinking what.
Because Almondine's point of view is being filtered through the narrator it is not the most reliable because it is not directly coming from Almondine. Because the narration is not directly coming from Almondine I think there is more understanding than if the narration came from a dog. I think that filtering the narration from someone else prevents any random off shoots that a dog might have and the narration goes deeper than just Almondine sitting somewhere thinking she is waiting for something. There is more explanation.
There were a lot more problems than benefits. IT's from a dogs point of view. It is probably the most limited point of view possible because the dog doesn't understand human emotions. They might interpret loud voices as excitement when its fear or another emotion. You do however get the idea that something big is happening or is going to happen and it leaves you in suspense.
I don’t like this narration. My main reason is that I think that it is a single point of view of an animal, even if it is passed through a main narrator. Along with this, I think that it is too soon to introduce Almondine solely by her name. I continued to be confused if Almondine was a person or a dog and it took me well into the story to finally understand that the narrator is calling her by name just like if the narrator was talking about a person.
I didn't like the narration through Almondine mainly because it was confusing to follow at first. I didn't like how the point of view was filtered through the narrator; I feel like the reader doesn't get the full emotion or thoughts of the dog. It would've made more sense to me to hear Almondine's thoughts through first person, I think that would have been less confusing for the reader.
I didn't care for Almondine's point of view being filtered through the narrator. On one hand, the narrator filtering the point of view could offer a more unbiased opinion than the point of view if it were told directly. on the other hand, the narrators own opinions could also play into the way the point of view of Almondine is explained. There is really no way to tell without knowing who the narrator is but I tend to lean towards the latter of the two.
There are a few problems this point of view filter could give. Not everything could be told as it actually happened, and emotions can sometimes be lost. I feel like instead of this being filtered by an anonymous narrator, the narrator could also be the dog, who is telling his story however just from a third person view (For example "Jeremy typed on his keyboard" I am still telling the story just from a third person limited view). A few people are disagreeing with the authors narration choice for this chapter, yet this was my favorite (up to what I have read)chapter in the book. I personally liked it and didn't find the point of view transition to be difficult or confusing. I dont think this is how an actual dog would think, nobody knows that, but I find this choice better than the chapter being written in a first person view from the dog. If a dog's brain could be as complex as a human's brain then I think first person would be better, since a dog's brain isn't as matured as a human's brain and would most likely not have fluid consciousness the third person view fits far better than a first person.
I found this narration to be quite confusing at times. It distracts you from the point that is trying to be made. It was difficult to get right into the chapter because the ideas seemed to be all over the place and it was hard to focus, but after I finally realized that it was Almondine it slowly started to make more sense. I just thought that the transitions could have been done better, or made more clear at least.
This kind of filtered narration is problematic because we don't get the full picture like we do in the other chapters with an omniscient narrator. However, a benefit of this kind of narration is the fact that we see the story through new eyes, and a point of view which is often not covered in novels. This narrator is a third person limited, through Almondine's head.
This chapter shows almondine's perspective but it misses out on some key things. The image given to you in this chapter is very blurry and hard to picture without the view of an all seeing character or even a character that is more involved in the events happening. I think the chapter was tough to read but it was a unique idea by the author and it did give a us a little bit of an idea of the Sawtelle's traing from a different perspective and shows us a new view. I thought it worked it was just a bit hard to fully understand.
I found it odd that the author chose to write from the perspective of Almondine, but told by the narrator. I think a problem caused by this type of narration would be a breakdown of communication; how does the narrator know what Almondine is thinking? Experiencing? That is, since dogs can't talk. Almondine could have experienced something that the narrator chose to leave out, or added something.
I thought it was really cheesy when the story was told about the dog. It was just telling me that Almondine knew something was going to happen. I knew that the boy was mute before this chapter and to me, that was the only real information I got from it. I'm curious as to why the author chose to have this chapter in it, and I hope there aren't more like it.
I wasn't a huge fan of the way this chapter is told. I think it is told from the view of Almondine to show the importance of her in the story and to let the reader know how protective she will become of Edgar. With the point of view being filtered through the narrator it can get confusing and I didn't like how such an important chapter was told this way. I think it makes it hard to understand everything that's happening.
It was different reading a book only knowing what a dog can figure out. Even though you are missing parts, I enjoyed this chapter. You are left out of things like the hospital visit, but you can figure out what happened by being very observative. I also liked how Almondine was able to sense when something was going to happen. I think the author wrote this chapter this way to show how intelligent and protective this dog is of its family.
Reading this chapter through Almondine's eyes somewhat filtered what the reader found out. Having a dog as a narrator only gives a certain perspective and is hard to give every exact detail. Almondine focuses on things that a human necessarily wouldn't, like the fact that she knew something was supposed to happen that had to do with the baby. Almondine is a big help to Edgar's mother, she actually wakes the mother up when she was unable to know Edgar was distressed since he has no voice. It's also unusual that this chapter is seen through Almondine but the narrator as well.
I thought this was a very creative and different way to tell this chapter. The way this chapter is narrated has definitely caused confusion among the readers from what I can tell in previous posts, and I agree. Maybe the writer created this chapter in the point of view of the dog to give some new information to the readers but to not too much. keeps the readers interested and asking questions.
The biggest problem of the point of view from this chapter was definitely confusion but I think it was a cool was to mix it up a bit. The story is told through Almondine's point of view and it showed the reader how protective she is of Edgar and the reader also gets a sense of her intelligence. The downside of this narration, in my opinion, is that it lacked the thoughts and emotions of Almondine. Although things were left out, I was still able to figure out the chapter from paying close attention.
the narration of this chapter is confusing and made me uncomfortable. i didn't figure out who's point of view it was. Also, i think that maybe that was the point of this chapter, to catch the reader off guard so they know that the narrator was an animal.
Having Almondine as the point of view really shows the connection that she has with the Sawtelle's, especially with Edgar. This point of view gave an intelligent and sophisticated mind to Almondine that most people usually don't consider. The benefits of this point of view is having an outside person, someone other than Gar or Trudy, relay information that may not be so emotionally connected. However Edgar and Almondine do make a connection and look to be protectors of one another. However, this can also be a disadvantage because without some of the emotion the mood of the setting is sometimes not fully accomplished.
The problems that this narration might cause is confusing and misunderstanding because the view point just all of a sudden changes to a humans to a dogs. The benefits to it can be you can see the dogs point of view and how it sees it. The narrator of this chapter is an animal I think.
Using the point of view of Almondine is a bit confusing because you can't always get the whole picture of what is going on. An upside of it is, it shows the relationship that she has with Edgar. This point of view is different than most authors would do and is very unique. I think the author used this point of view to allow us to fell how protecting and caring Almondine is for Edgard.
The narration in this chapter makes it difficult to comprehend everything that is happening and is missing elements. One thing I gained out of it, is the conncection between Almondine and Edgar. It's interesting to get Almondine's point of view. Overall, I did not like the set up. The switching of the narrators was quite confusing and you couldn't quite get the whole picture. It definitely had pros and cons to the style.
The narration doesn't always give all the information. It can leave out things, which makes it difficult to relate to the story and the characters; even though it's from their point of view. They are not the person who wrote it, it's not them telling their story.
Personally, I liked the unusual point of view. It gave a new sense of perspective and helped one to get some intel on the makeup of a "Sawtelle dog". It also helped one to understand the cruicial point of Almondine in the story. Almondine is like Edgar's sidekick; his other half and technically speaking his vocal cords. Whenever Edgar runs into a problem where he would need to yell Almondine barks for him, which I found to b e a witty solution to Edgar's problem. The point of view also helped one understand the relationship between Almondine and Edgar much better. When Almondine first saw Edgar and recognized his purpose in life I couldn't help thinking of the werewolves imprinting in Twilight. Almondine basically imprinted on Edgar from day one. Thus, from Almondine's perspective I was able to understand why the dog and Edgar were attached at the hip. Although, this narrator did have it's negative aspects as well. Dogs, even Sawtelle dogs, are not nearly as intellectual as humans. Therefore, sometimes Almondine's descriptions and judgements were much more obscure and unsightly than a humans would of been. All in all, although the chapter was told through a limited narrator it was still a useful writing tactic because it gave the reader another perspective of the story.
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