Tuesday, July 24, 2012

The Tiger's Wife: Chapter 3

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Why is Dure so adamant about not taking his kids to a doctor?

Do you see any parallels or links between this chapter and the the story of the deathless man?

Does your family or anyone you know still believe in and/or practice home remedies for illnesses? What are they? Do they work?

74 comments:

Unknown said...

Dure is very defiant in denying the doctors’ help. He is too consumed by his own superstitious beliefs. He believes that his kids will only get better once they find their cousin’s buried body. Dure is convinced that this cousin is unhappy underneath the vineyard, where he was buried twelve years ago during the war, and he is making them sick. Dure doesn’t realize that their illness has nothing to do with their cousin. He believes that the only cure to their illness is finding their cousin’s body. Dure will have nothing to do with the doctors and their medicine.

I see a link between Chapter 3 and the deathless man. The workers in the vineyard are digging for their cousin, who they seem to think is making them all sick. Their cousin buried in the vineyard could be compared to the deathless man in Chapter 3 who cannot die, because even after the cousin has supposedly died, he is continuing to cast misfortune and sickness on the workers.

My family does not usually practice home remedies. There is one home remedy that I use, however, that works wonders. When I have a sore throat, I make a concoction of 1 tablespoon of honey, 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar, and 8 ounces of hot water. I drink the mixture and my throat almost instantly feels better.

Elise.G. said...

I think that superstition plays a big part in why Dure does not want the doctor's help. Dure, and everyone else in his family, think they need to unearth the body of his cousin who was buried in the vineyard during the war. Superstition aside, I also think that maybe a solid dose of pride may have something to do with his refusal toward the doctor as well.
The parallel I drew in Ch 3 was between the deathless man and the dead cousin. Though the cousin died, a trail of mishaps seem to continue to live on and plague the family.

Anonymous said...

Dure might be so adamant about not bringing his family to a doctor because like how natalia said about the mothers not wanting to vary from thier mothers tactics when it comes to home remidies. Dure might be just as strange with the home remidies as any other old school mother.
I feel thier is a connection between the deathless man and this story, a soul that refuses to die and makes other sick as revenge for not being found, isjust as scary as a deathless man.Both the deathless man and the dead cousin cannot die, the soul of the cousin cannot disapear like the deathless man can't die.
My mother has some home remedies for toothpaste! it cleans jewlery, gets rid of acne, and cleans your teeth. Mother also uses teabags to age paper and cure a stuffy nose. but other than those odd things we have no serious home remidies that would but the family in danger like dure does.

Megan Johnson said...

Dure is so against having the help of a doctor because he believes the doctor can not help the children. Dure is convinced that the sickness the children have is being caused by a cousin that was buried years ago in the field during the war. He thinks the man is unhappy where he is and once dug up and moved will rid the children of their illness.

I do see a connection between chapter 3 and the chapter containing the deathless man. The deathless man is unable to die and the cousin buried in the ground is in a way not dead. Although he is buried in the ground, he is living in the children making them sick. The buried man is causing sickness and distress on his family and the deathless man caused stress and havoc on his community.

Off the top of my head I can not think of any home remedies that my family uses. We have a nurse in the family so my family just asks her opinion when anyone becomes sick.

Haleigh Cunningham said...

Dure believes that his kids will not be cured until they can find the body buried in the vineyard. He believes that the buried body, which is a distant cousin, is angry and making his people sick. Dure thinks that nothing can heal them except making the body’s spirit happy.
Both Gavran Gaile and the buried cousin are around and causing trouble longer than they should be.
When my grandma was alive she had many home remedies. She used to make a paste that would draw a bee’s stinger out, and she would put something on our mosquito bites to stop the itching. Now my family does not have any remaining home remedies; they’ve slowly died off with the use of antibiotics.

Anonymous said...

Dure refuses to let the doctors take a look at his kids because he is convinced that the only reason they are sick is due to their dead cousin. In Dure's mind once they find the cousin, the kids will become better so there is no need to seek out extra help. Dure is too consumed by his own beliefs to accept the fact that his kids illness might not actually be a result of the cousin.

I see a link between chapter 3 and the deathless man. Dure tries to convince people that the family is sick due to the cousins lack of a proper burial, while the deathless man tries to convince people that he knows if they are going to die. Both Dure and the deathless man propose highly unlikely ideas, which people have a hard time accepting as true.

My family does not practice any particular home remedies for illnesses. My mom does however have a mixture for bee stings. Whenever my brothers or I got stung by a bee she would mix baking soda and water to create a paste like substance to put on the sting. This almost instantly takes away the pain of the sting.

twirl4life said...

Dure is so adamant about not taking his kids to a doctor because he wants to be able to take care of his kids on his own without any one else. I think Dure just wants to be able to do everything for his kids, but he doesn't realize that at times he may need other people's help, such as doctors help.

I think the link between this chapter and the story of the deathless man is defiance and their willingness to survive anything that crosses their path. The children fight their illnesses relentlessly in order to survive, just like Gavo does with any near death situation he encounters. Both of their situations are a fight between life and death, yet in both situations they are defiant and not willing to give in to death.

My grandma still believes in her old remedies likes magnets for muscle pain. She tapes them on most of the time and they seem to work pretty well.

Unknown said...

Dure doesn't take his children to the doctor because he is a classic, stubborn old man. He believes the doctor's medicine won't help the sick children. Dure believes the only reason they are sick is because his cousin was improperly buried. The faster the body is found and disposed of properly, the faster everybody will become well again. By sending the children to the doctor, he would be losing two workers for no gain.

The deathless man's story pertains to a man that is unable to die. He can live through anything, and the villagers think he is some sort of curse or zombie. This chapter is centered around a buried man who, due to his improper burial, curses all the villagers. In both stories, the villagers have to deal with the trouble the men cause.

The only old fashioned remedies my family uses during sickness is ibuprofen, tissues, and sleep.

Kylie Ferguson said...

Dure is very superstitions. He puts his faith in his spiritual beliefs rather medicine and science. Once they dig up their restless cousin that was buried there after the war several years ago, he believes their sicknesses will go away. He is very stubborn and prideful in his beliefs and not willing to expand his views beyond what he already believes to be true.

I see a loose connection between the two stories: The deathless man cannot die; although Dure’s cousin is physically dead, his soul won’t rest and proceeds to haunt and sicken his family. But beyond that, I see no other similarities or connections.

Renee Goforth said...

I think the key of Dure's defiance toward taking his kids to a doctor revolves around superstition. He believes that their cousin who is buried in the vineyard is the cause of the illness. He believes that their cousin is unhappy where he is buried, and causing the illness.
This ties in with the story of the deathless man, because even though the cousin is supposedly dead, Dure believes he is the cause of the misfortune.

Megan Grohnke said...

Dure is adamant against taking his kids to a doctor because he does not trust doctors. He is a very traditional man and wants to take care of things himself. He does not seem like the type of person that would rely on someone else to make sure his kids healed and stayed healthy. Because he is very traditional, taking a child to a doctor is very modern and new to him. It is not a trusted practice in his mind, therefore he does not take his kids to a doctor.

I think the links between this chapter and the story of the deathless man is that the diggers in this chapter are looking for their buried cousin, and the deathless man seems to be looking for his uncle. Neither story has a lot of solid answers. I also think that both stories cause problems for those involved and around. The dead cousin is sickening those looking for him and the deathless man is causing the grandfather to seem crazy and question his knowledge as a doctor.

Unknown said...

Dure is so against taking the kids to the doctor because they are looking for something, well more so, someone. No matter how they feel, they are dedicated to one another to just push on and continue the search. Also his superstitions prevent him from truly believing his family needs help. Natalia didn’t approach him in a very proper manner.

I think there are some links between the deathless man and this chapter. I felt the authors same sense of mystery. The diggers are trying to dig up their cousin who has for some reason made them all sick. Maybe their cousin is the deathless man and is causing them grief?

My family tends not to practice home remedies at all. The only thing we do is something my grandfather used to do, is dip either bologna or beef stick in ketchup to prevent hiccups. As far as I know, my dad swears it works.

Unknown said...

Dure is so adamant about not taking his kids to the doctor because he thinks that once he finds his cousins body in the vineyard they will all not be sick anymore. The link between this chapter and the story of the deathless man is that just like Gavo never giving up until the grandfather would believe him, Dure and the rest of the diggers will never give up until they find the cousins body because they think they will all be cured. Whenever any of my family has a sore throat we drink hot tea with honey in it and I think it works.

Mariah said...

Dure is so against taking his children to the doctor because he might fear that they are in worse condition than he thinks that they are and they will need more attention than he cares to give them. He needs the boys to work, and if they go to the doctor they won't be working. Even though the medicines wont cost him, I think that his pride would cost a lot more than he is willing to pay.
One link to the story of the deathless man that I see in this chapter is that Dure does not give up in his persistence against the medicine as the deathless man was. Both the deathless man and Dure refused the medical treatment provided by the doctors even though they did not have to pay.
At home my grandma still puts baking soda on bee stings and splinters, it works great and my mom puts vinegar on poison ivy.

Maggie said...

Dure is so stubborn about keeping his kids digging because he believes he is doing what is best for them. He believes once he finds the body his whole family will be saved, and by doing so, he just has to keep digging. He also refuses to take his kids to the doctor because if he was not able to help his children through his home remedies then it must be something spiritual, nothing a doctor can help. I just don’t think he believes in a doctor being able to do something his medicines cant.

The link between the deathless man and Dure is that they are both very superstitious. Gavo cannot die no matter what happens to him, and he completely believes that because of his superstitions. If he has no coffee grounds at the bottom of his cup then he is immortal, if Dure finds his cousin’s body all will be saved. They are both very far fetched but as Gavo proved Natalia’s grandfather wrong, and then maybe Dure will prove Natalia wrong.

My family uses some home remedies such as, gargling salt water for soar throats, or putting alum on your canker soars. Besides that, my family and I just refuse to go to the doctor, or seek any medical help, until were practically on our deathbeds.

Becky said...

I thought this chapter was very interesting. The whole story with the deathless man really drew me in; it kept me on the edge of my seat, wondering what was to happen with the relationship between him and Natalia's grandfather. I just get chills with the suspense of their deal and how it turns out. It really drew me into the rest of the novel. Although I can't think of what the connection is between the story of the deathless man and the chapter itself, it all relates to death and how to deal with it.

Lindsey said...

Dure is so adamant about not taking the kids to a doctor because he believes that seeing a doctor is not beneficial. Although the children are very ill, he believes the combination of home remedies along with digging will be what best cures his children. I also believe that Dure does not want to know how sick the kids truly are. If he takes them to a doctor, they will be given treatment, and who knows how long that will take, so not only will Dure be wrong in his judgement about whether or not the kids should see a doctor, but they will also be absent from digging for a time.
There are a few parallels between this chapter and the story of the deathless man, for example the whole concept of death. In the story of the deathless man, a man is not able to die, and now in this chapter they are digging for a dead body. The theme of death is prevalent in both chapters. Also I would agree with Maggie when she said superstition. Gavo and the "magic" coffee cup and believing that determines if a man will live or die, and Dure believing that things will better for his family when they dig up his cousin's body. I feel as if Natalia is reliving many moments of her grandfathers life in her own, or maybe her experiences will come to reveal parts of her grandfathers life that she has never known.
I have a hilarious story about home remedies! Since she is not in AP English and will never see this post I'm just going to tell the story. As many people know Jenny Perry and I are pretty good friends, and she went home one day and googled "home remedies for headaches". She found that applying peppermint oil to your temples and forehead is great for curing headaches. Being the clever person she is, Jenny went to her kitchen cupboard and figured that peppermint oil and peppermint extract were the same thing, so she rubbed peppermint extract all over her face. Needless to say, it most definitely didn't work and she was left with a very strong burning sensation all over her face that she could not get rid of. Haha. As for my family, I'm pretty sure nobody uses home remedies. Ibuprofen seems to take care of pretty much everything.

Hannah Wagner said...

Dure doesn't want to take his kids to the doctor because he claims it won't help. This is due to both superstition and pride. Dure believes that the only reason his kids and everyone else is sick is because of the improper burial of the cousin in the vineyard. Only by finding and digging up the cousin, will everyone become healthy again. Dure also has a high sense of pride. He thinks what he is doing is good enough for everybody. This includes the home remedies that may or may not actually be working, and his mistrust of doctors. Dure also doesn't want to let his sons see the doctor because then that would be two less workers digging in search of the cousin.

The link between the diggers and the story of the deathless man is the defiant nature of both. Dure doesn't want to give into what Natalia is saying, and the deathless man is defying...well everything by not dying.

My family doesn't really have any home remedies. If anything my mom is the "oh no, you have a slight cough, off to the doctor's!" type so must things get treated the...technical way.

Sammy W said...

Dure wants nothing to do with doctors and medicine because he believes his cousin, that died 12 years ago in the war, is unhappy with his final resting place under the vinard. He believes that if they find his body his children will be healthy again.
My grandfather(on my dads side) believes that there is an herbal remady for every single medical condition and real medicine is rat poison.

Brittany Amos said...

I'm pretty sure Dure is one of those arrogant guys that assume everyone is out to get him. How he says that she might take his children away from him.. She just wanted to help him and his family get better from the fever.

Yes, home remedies work wonderful compared to medicine. My mom's a nurse and she would always have us do everything before turning to medicine. From lemons and honey in tea to ginger ale, I'm sure we've used it. Although, if the illness is extremely severe to where it's lasting for weeks that is when you turn to Z-Packs, they also work fast and effectively.

Brittany Fisher said...

Dure so firmly believes that the children are sick because their dead cousin's body is buried under the vineyard. He refuses help from a doctor or to take his kids to get the free medicine because he doesn't believe it will work as well as finding the cousin's body.
The only parallel I noticed was the cousin being somewhat like the deathless man. Even though he's dead, he's still having an effect on the living.
My family's home remedies aren't necessarily for illnesses, but my parents always have my brother and I eat a spoonful of peanut butter when we have the hiccups. That does work, the hiccups go away almost instantly. The other home remedy is my grandfather's. When someone has a really bad cough, my grandfather's homemade cough syrup (made out of honey, lemon juice, and whiskey) makes it go away. It works really well but the cough syrup tastes absolutely AWFUL.

Katelyn said...

I think Dure is so adament about not taking his kids to the doctor because he doesn't think a doctor will be able to help them. He is convinced that if his kids dig up their cousin's body that they will be cured easier than if they were to go to the doctor.
The parallel between this chapter and the deathless man are that in both stories, someone who is "dead" is also in some way affecting the people who are still living.
The only home remedies I can think of that my family has for "illnesses" is gargling salt water for a sore throat and putting mustard on grease burns. I've never tried the salt water but I got splattered with grease at work once and put mustard on it for about 10 minutes because we're not allowed to have burn cream (or anything with aspirin in it) at work and it really helped take away the burning.

Kailey Doherty said...

Dure believes that his family is sick because his cousin's body is buried in the vineyard. He refuses to let the doctors treat his children because he thinks that finding the dead body will help more than anything the doctors can do.

My parents have a few. One that tends to come up a lot is gargling with saltwater when we have sore throats. To me this one doesn't seem to work at all but my mom claims it helps her all the time. Another is drinking coke when you have an upset stomach but I haven't tried this one.

Bekah said...

He has his superstitious beliefs and uses that as an excuse for his children not being able to go. We have some home remedies for headaches such as like pinching between the thumb and forefinger which works well. My grandma has a home remedy for nearly every illness she makes any food we want. That’s my personal favorite home remedy it works wonders.

Morgan Rinckey said...

One possible reason Dure does not want his children to see a doctor is because it will make his family seem more poor. Dure seems to think that the Natalia is only there to treat orphans. He tells her that his children are not orphans and that this is his country and he does not need her help. He does not want his children to be treated with orphans because that would make him an unsuccessful provider and a failure as man and father.

My Aunt Shirley has a lot of home remedies and they always seem to work. Nail polish remover helps to get leeches off. Peanut butter helps a bandaid peel off easier. A mixture of baking soda and water helps with swelling when stung by hornets.

Unknown said...

Dure is so adamant about taking his kids to a doctor because he really believes once he finds the body all ailments will be cured.

I really don't see any links besides the fact that her grandfather didn't believe the deathless man until he proved himself, and the fact that Natalia is so sure that they need medical attention that she thinks what they are doing to cure themselves is just insane.

My boyfriends grandma collects oils and uses them for certain illnesses and aches...etc. They actually work.

Paige said...

I think Dure refuses to take his children to take his children to a doctor based on his pride. He doesn't want to look like a poor, careless father. He beliefs cloud his judgement and he thinks he can cure his children simply by finding his cousin's body.

The main remedy we use in my family is plenty of rest and sleep. My mom always says that the best way to cure a cold is to sleep it off.

Audrey said...

Dure refused to take his kids to the doctor because he believes that his remedies are the best for his child. He believes that he can take care of his child the better than doctors can. My family doesn't really have any remedies, but my mom thinks that Motrin can heal everything. If you ever complain to her about anything, her answer is to always just take some Motrin and you'll feel better.

Ray R said...

Even if he wasn't superstitious, I doubt Dure would take his children to the doctor. People in his position in society are considered to be sitting on the lowest rung, and all he has left to him is what he can make for himself, and what he can bring home for his family. His pride. He will not, and can not, willingly give that up by asking someone to help him. To do that would be to give up his sense of self, even if it could potentially save his family.

In both chapters, the village people/Dure's people fear the dead. They will stop all functions of their daily lives to appease their superstitious minds.

Daniel Peterson said...

Dure seems like the superstitious type so i doubt he has any trust in modern medacine.

In both of these stories the superstious inhabitants of the both towns seemed to have worked themselves into a frenzy because of their superstious beliefs.

I dont really know anyone that still practices home remedies.

Emily.Modrowski said...

In my opinion, Dure is so adamant about taking his kids to see a doctor because he doesn't want to look like a failure. He can't keep his kids healthy, and it is probably killing him to see them like that, but he doesn't want any doctors scolding him for the children's lack of medical attention. He's been working them like crazy to find the body that he believes will cure them but he's losing hope, and Natalia yelling at him only hurts him more.

chang said...

I think Dure doesn’t want to take his kids to the doctor because he doesn’t think they can help him. Dure is convinced that the only way to help his kids is by finding the body that was buried in the vineyard. He is trying to find the body because the body is one of his cousins that were buried during the war, but Dure believes that the body is not happy where it is buried so it is the thing causing all the sickness.
I only see two links between the body and the deathless man. I see how both really won’t go away. The body is dead but it still bothers the family by making them sick. While Gavran won’t die and he keeps on telling people that they are going to die.
My family doesn’t have any home remedies and I don’t know anyone else who uses home remedies either.

Unknown said...

To me Dure seems in denial. He doesn't want to take his kids to the doctor because he thinks that if the kids find the cousins body (which is buried) then all of a sudden they will get better. The dead body isn't causing the kids to be sick though. Therefore Dure doesn't want or believe in help from professionals.

I started to sorta see it in this Chapter. I think thats because they are digging for the dead cousin in the vineyard..but yet there's the deathless man who obviously won't die. I see it coming along now but it seems hard to explain, it's almost what you let yourself believe is what you see.

This might seem weird, but it has to do with Hiccups. When i was younger, one night before bed i got the worst hiccups ever! My grandma was living with us at the time and told me to take a spoon full of sugar. (I know it seems crazy to give a 10 year old sugar before bed!)I took it, and they went away within less than a minute!

Unknown said...

I think Dure is so adamant about not taking his kids to a doctor because he is stuck in his own way and beliefs to see what his kids really need. He thinks that if they can find the body of a dead cousin that is buried in the vineyard, than the kids and the people of the town won't be sick anymore. I honestly think that has nothing to do with it, and I wonder what Dure would do if they found the body and his kids still didn't get better.

The link that I see between the chapter and the story of the deathless man is that in the chapter they are looking for a man who has died, but is somehow still hanging around making others sick, and the deathless man is a man who just can't die.

As of right now, I can not think of any home remedies that my family use, but a friend of the family does talk about a way to take the sting out of a sunburn. She says that before she goes to bed she will rub vinegar on her sunburn and when she wakes up, it doesn't sting anymore. She also says that the only down side is that you have to go to bed smelling like a pickle.

Karee.Kunkel said...

The reason Dure is against taking the children to the doctor is because he honestly does not believe the doctor can help. Dure is blaming the dead cousin for all the illnesses, and believes that if they recover the body then all the problems will disappear.
I think the link between the deathless man story and this chapter is they both revolve around someone continually lingering. Whether it is the man who refuses to die, or the man who is causing the sickness, both are related to someone hanging around.
My family has two basic home remedies. The first is when any of us have a sore throat, we mix salt with hot water and gargle it. Oddly enough, it actually seems to take the soreness out of your throat. The other home remedy is making a paste out of baking soda and water to put on a canker sore. The paste works extremely well, and allows you some relief from the constant pain.

Amalie Farah said...

Dure is very adamant about not taking his kids to the doctor because if they went to the doctor and felt better it would mean that they were wrong about his dead cousin making them sick. He thinks there is no other reason for his kids to be sick and he wants to be right.

A parallel between the deathless man story and this chapter is that both Natalia and her grandfather encountered very defiant people. The deathless man would not give up trying to convince Natalia’s grandfather that he could not die, even if it meant he had to stay underwater all night. In the same way, Dure would not give up in his attempt to convince Natalia that once they found his cousin’s body, they would all be healthy again and there would be no need for a doctor, even if it meant his children would suffer in the meantime.

Mackenzi Corns said...

Dure is so adamant about not taking his kids to the doctor because he is superstitious and does not believe the doctor will help. He thinks that the cousin was buried improperly buried and this is causing his kids' illness.

The guy who owns the barn where we board our horse told us that snorting salt water in each nostril keeps you healthy. He told my mom and I that his grandfather did it and never got sick a day in his life. I guess it works, haven't tried it though.

Kelso Stark said...

Dure is refusing to get medical help for his children because of his own beliefs. Apparently, vaccinations are useless when there's a cousin that's been dead for twelve years buried in a vineyard.

Like the deathless man, Dure refuses a doctor's help. Dure also refuses to change his mind about what he believes.

My mom's a nurse, so we basically use the hospital's solutions for everything. The closest I've ever come to using home remedies is mixing alcohol and water to freeze for ice packs.

Annie Valade said...

Dure is so defiant about the doctor's help because of his own beliefs. He thinks that his children's illness is due to the dead cousin.
The deathless man and Dure are both very defiant and stubborn people.

zoewestlund said...

Dure is so adamant about not taking his kids to the doctor because he is superstitious and thinks that the kids will be cured from their illnesses once they find their cousin's body that's buried in the vineyard. This chapter and the story about the deathless man draw some similarities. Their cousin, who is physically dead, is still alive in the sense that he is still causing distress and illness for them and the deathless man won't die either. One home remedy we use is to get rid of zits, we use a banana peel and rub it over the zit to get rid of it.

Sophia Marciniak said...

Dure is so adamant about not wanting the doctor to help his children because he doesn't believe that the doctor can help them. He believes that his children are sick because of superstitous reasons. He thinks that if he uncovers the body of their cousin that was buried 12 years ago in a war, that his children will get better.
The only thing I know of that is a sure-fire cure in my family is when my grandma tries to scare us to make our hiccups go away. It doens't normally work, but on the off chance that it does she is ecstatic.

Sean.Bacon said...

Dure is so adamant to not take his kids to a doctor because he doesn't believe that the doctor can even help them and that the only way to cure their illness is to dig up their cousin's body that is buried under the vineyard, he believes that the cousin is unhappy with buried under the vineyard and has cast a pox on his children and that is why they are sick, little does he know that this has nothing to do with his and his children's misfortunes.

The parallels between this chapter and the story of the deathless man is that the cousin appears to affect the living realm despite being dead just as the story of the deathless man viewed as dead but could still affect the realm of the living.

We don't really practice home remedies however we do have a little trick for getting rid of hiccups, fill up a glass with cold water put a metal butter knife in the glass then as you drink the water rest the end of the knife on your forehead, it works about 90% of the time and we really don't know why.

Erin Mulleavy said...

Dure is too superstitious to seek professional medical help for his children. He believes that finding his cousin's body is the only way to help his children. I also think that Dure's pride is really getting in the way of taking his children to a doctor. The deathless man and Dure are both very determined people. They both wanted to prove themselves to be right.
My family doesn't really have any home remedies for illnesses. However, like Sean, my family also has a unique hiccup remedy. We fill up a glass of water and put a tissue over it and drink the water through the tissue. Supposedly, the tissue is supposed to filter out all of the air bubbles that are in the water. It probably is all in our heads, but it seems to work quite effectively.

Liz Joyce said...

Dure refuses medical assistance because of his own superstitious beliefs. He is agaisnt the practice of medicine and believes in the paranormal. He is consumed with the idea that the dead body is causing commotion and sickness and the only way to prevent death is to dig the body back up.

The connection between the deathless man and the man from chapter 3 is that both men cause mass hysteria. Both communities suffer and are brought to believe in past life and odd miracles causing fright and panic.

My family does not normally practice home rememdies however my grandma used to tell me that to prevent sea sickness you should put a Band-Aid over your belly button. Surprisingly it works, but most likely it is all mind game.

JacksonLamb said...

Dure is a stubborn old man and is convinced that there is nothing the doctors can do for the children because the illness is caused by a dead cousin. I do see a link between chapter 3 and the story of the deathless man. The deathless obviously cant die but the cousin is dead but in a way he is still alive because he is making the children sick. All my family uses is the classic R.I.C.E method.

ellenehays said...

Dure is so adamant about not taking his kids to a doctor because he is convinced that he knows what is right for his kids. He believes that no doctor can help him, and that the reason for their illness' is from the curse of their dead cousin.

There are many links between this chapter and the story of the deathless man. The connection is that both people can not seem to die. The deathless man says he can not physically die, while the dead cousin seems to not be able to mentally die. The cousin is dead but still lingers through the town cursing and hurting families of loved ones. Another connection includes, that both stories are likely unreal and hard to believe. It doesn't seem very possible to have a "deathless man", but we find out he exists. Then I think it is not really possible to have a dead cousin who curses it's family members, but he also exists.

My family does not really practice any home rememdies. If we are hurt we get lots of rest and take some ibuprofen and then call the doctor, the real professional.

Blake Miller said...

Dure just might be losing his sanity in his strange goal to dig up the body of his cousin. I believe that Dure's children got sick and he had no way to justify this other than to say some superstitious belief of his. When people questioned his logic his pride most likely kicked in and now he wants to prove them all wrong by digging up the body of the cousin.
The parallel between this chapter and the deathless man is life after death. The deathless man should be dead but still lives, where as the cousin who is dead still has an influence on the living world.
A home remedy that my family still practices would be when someone has a sore throat or just can't stop coughing, my mom will mix a little bit of whiskey, lemon juice, and honey in a cup for us to drink. From my experience it worked for varying periods of time. It might just be the really bizare taste of the 3 combined that just distracts you from the pain though...

M.Martin said...

Dure doesn’t want his kids going to a doctor because he can’t afford it and he doesn’t want his family to look like a charity case where they need handouts. We later find out that Dure’s family is superstitious, and believes that they have to find the body of their cousin in the vineyard before they will ever have their health restored.
I did notice a few links between this chapter and the story of the deathless man. Dure and the deathless man both did something that caused them to suffer in some way and now they are trying to make up for what happened in order to restore normalcy back to their lives. Dure had buried the body of his distant cousin, whom he had carried down from the mountain during the war and had to leave behind, in the present day vineyard. Now Dure’s whole family is sick, and a woman told them it was the cousin’s body making them sick, because he didn’t have a proper resting place. So, Dure has this superstition instilled in him that he must find the body and provide a proper burial in order for his family’s proper health to return. Similarly, the deathless man disobeyed his Uncle and is now cursed by not having the ability to die. He believes he must make up his wrongdoing to his Uncle in order to live a normal life.
Throughout the years my family has used many home remedies for problems/illnesses that work. The main practice I use, is putting rubbing alchohol on mosquito bites to enstinguish the urge to scratch.

Unknown said...

Dure might be so adamant about not taking his family to the doctor because he doesn’t think that the doctor can help them in any way. Dure thinks the kids cannot be cured until they find the dead body of their cousin. Dure is too distracted by this fact to think that their illness could be caused by something else.
I see the link between the deathless man and chapter 3. Both of the situations are fighting death, which is something that you cannot fight when you get down to the end.
The only home remedies my family uses are the most common ones, like salt water for soar throats.

Anonymous said...

Dure is so adamant about not taking his family to the doctors because he doesn't think it is a illness that a doctor could fix. He believes it is his dead cousin haunting the children and making them sick. So what is Dure's magical plan? Well digging up the dead body of course! Which makes no sense to me, because aren't you supposed to not disturb the dead? I can see the link between the deathless man and Dure;s cousin because one can not die physically and the other can not die spiritually.

HannahMcBride said...

I think that Dure does not want to take his children to the doctor because he is so superstitous and believes that if he finds his cousin that everyone will get better. Dure believes that his cousin needs a proper burial and the only reason the kids are sick is because his cousin needs a proper burial and that a doctor will not help. The only thing that will help is finding his cousins remains.
The parallel link I found between the deathless man and this chapter is that even though Dure’s cousin is dead things happen because of the cousin. Just like the deathless man continues to do things.
My family has a few home remedies, but they only provide temporary relief not a cure for whatever illness someone in my family may have.

Syoma said...

Dure does not want to take his kids to the doctors because of his beliefs. He strongly believes that the only way to cure his children is to dig up his dead cousins body. The similarity between dures dead cousin and the deathless man is that both are dead but they both manage to exist in a way. My mom does not use remedies when i am sick. She just goes to the store and buys me Tylenol and a lot of good food. It seems to work.

Unknown said...

A mixture of Dure's doubt and superstitious beliefs leads him to keep his children from being treated by the doctor. He does not believe the doctor can do anything for his children because their sickness is caused by his cousin's lack of a proper burial.

My family has several home remedies for ailments. One that we use for bee stings is not even something that I can explain. I do know that it is white and mushy and might be a mixture of baking soda and water. Another thing that my grandparents have told me about to clear a head cold is a teaspoon of whiskey. My aunt told me that when my cousin was young, nothing really helped his sickness except for the teaspoon of whiskey.

Julia Mendez said...

Dure refuses the help of doctors because he believes that once they unbury the cousin and find a proper burial place, the illness will be cured.

One connection between the deathless man and Dure is how resistant they both are to giving up on proving themselves right.

Im afraid that the only remedies my family use are a couple ibuprofen or a nap.

Claire13 said...

Because of Dure's beliefs, he refuses to take his children to the doctor's. The way his cousin was buried is what is keeping them sick and in order to remedy their sickness they need to find the body. This is related to the deathless man because even both are dead, they still manage to have an impact on the living. We have no home remedies for illness. Just going to the doctor's and gettin all drugged up works just fine. And lots of sleep of course.

Nicole W said...

Dude does not want his sick children. To be helped by the doctors because he believes they are sick due to his dead cousin. He thinks the only way for his kids to be cured of illness is to find his cousin's dead body, which was apparently buried wrong.

A connection between the deathless man and Dure's dead cousins is that death sometimes lingers a little bit longer than it should.

We use some home remedies at my house. One is that my mom gives me a spoonful of honey when I have a sore throat. Then there is one where my great-grandmother use to say that you were suppose to put your own spit on your zit as soon as you woke up in the morning. I just take her word on that one.

CiaraKoss said...

Dure doesn't want Natalia's help because of the beliefs he was raised with, and also the traditional "medicines" they use. I also think it's because he sees himself as a working man. He probably worked for everything his entire life, and he was too prideful to take Natalia up on her offer.

The only remedy we use - or used to use - in this house is dish soap for a sailor's mouth. But, if my brothers and I are anything to go by, it hasn't had much of an effect. My dad still believes that sticking candles in his ears with help with an ear infection, but the fact that he still has it after days of that method doesn't seem to faze him. I think he just enjoys having an excuse to be lazy, laying on the couch with a lit candle poking out the side of his head.

Jamie M. said...

People that grow up the kind and amount of doctors we have in America tend to be suspicious or doubtful of doctors. Dure probably thought that taking his kids to a doctor would be at best a waste of time and at worst a danger to them. The home remedies that he's used to have generations of tradition on their side.

My mom says she can cure hiccups by staring at her thumb. I think she's crazy but she claims it's effective.

Kevin Amy said...

Duré seems to be adamant about not seeing a doctor because his family is superstitious.

I don't see any real parallels.

Funny you ask about home remedies. Yes, some in my family, mainly the older generation, still believe in them. Sadly people are mislead by them. Most home remedies (except the off the wall ones like soaking feet in pig urine to cure a cold O.o) have a bit of truth. If you ever get time to read about tribal remedies (especially Amazonian tribes) you'll see that they do us herbs that can fight infections and wwhatnot; some so well they're used in the general public.

Leah Shear said...

Dure is so adamant on not taking his kids to a doctor because he doesn’t believe a doctor can help them. A link between chapter 3 and the deathless man is the family keeps having a sickness… Possibly caused by the deathless man because he cannot die. My family does not practice any home remedies nor does anyone I know.

Alyssa Sander said...

I think he feels bad that he can't take his children to a doctor because he can not pay for it. I think it's a type of man pride thing, he is just being stubborn.

My grandma believes in a lot of homeopathic medicines and remedies for illness. She taps me on certain parts of my face sometimes and does a lot of weird things I can't thing of any specifics though. I don't think they really work.

Unknown said...

Dure is hesitant to take his kids to the doctor because he is too consumed by his beliefs about his buried kin to worry about his kids. And he believes his treatment is not at the hands of a doctor but of the curse.

Meghan said...

Dure is adament about taking his kids to a doctor because he's superstitious. Dure believes that the bones of his cousin he buried in the vine yard 12 years ago is haunting his family and making them ill.
Some of my family remedies are for ear aches to blow smoke from a menthal cigarette into the ailing ear. For sea warts to rub a potato peel on the wart to shrink it. For cutting teeth, you rub a little whiskey and lemon juice on the gums. Also use a very small amount of whiskey and lemon juice in tea to get rid of a cough. If you follow the stict belief of my great uncle, a shot of whiskey a day will keep the doctor away, specificly turkey whiskey.

Alyssa R said...

Dure doesn't take his kids to the doctor because he is superstitious and he thinks that he can cure an illness better than the doctors can.

Our home remedy is Vick's vapor rub...works for EVERYTHING!

Logan Smith said...

Dure will not take his children to the doctor because of his beliefs. Beliefs are one of the strongest things of the human mind and nothing will get in the way of that. If he truly believes that his dead cousin is the reason of his childrens sickness, he will not take his kids to the doctor ever.

Aaron Hilsenbeck said...

Dure does not want to take his kids to the doctor because he believes so strongly that the only thing making them sick is his buried cousin. His cousin was buried under the vineyard 12 years ago during the war. Dure believes that his cousin is unhappy because of his improper burial and in turn is making the family sick. He doesn’t want his kids to go to the hospital because he wants their help to dig up the body as soon as possible.

The link between Dure and the deathless man is belief. The deathless man seems to believe that he cannot die under any circumstances because of his uncle’s will. Dure believes that his cousin that was buried under the vineyard is causing his family to become ill. Both of these men believe so strongly in what they are trying to convince everyone else of, however, nobody believes them and offer help that neither one wants.

Nobody in my family has any home remedies. However, there is one part of my family that seems to believe that “if it came by itself it will leave by itself.” This does not work, and that part of the family spends the most time in the hospital with illnesses.

Josh tillman said...

I think a connection between the deathless man and the dead cousin is neither die. Obviously deathless man doesn't bc it's in the name but dead cousins soul will not die either. My grandma swears that anytime you are sick you should drink hot water with vinegar and honey in it. It's terrible. I literally threw it up when I drank it

Thalia Manuelidis said...

Dure is ridiculously superstitious. He believes the only reason that his kids are sick is because their "dead" cousin is missing. He tries to find his cousin in order to help his kids, but in reality, the only thing the children need is medical help. Dure's adamant attitude exemplifies his stubborn personality. The missing cousin and the deathless man are similar because both of them are impossible to harm, yet they can cause harm onto others.

Andrew Gin said...

As we find out from the conversation, Dure believes that a body must be dug up to save his family from illness. He is superstitious and therefore does not believe in modern medicine. I suppose that if you are raised to believe something, it is extremely difficult to change that belief.

The deathless man couldn't die and the cousin continues to act after he is dead. Both stories have to do with superstition and diverge from what can be assumed to be reality.

I think that everyone uses certain home remedies, but my grandmother takes it to a pretty extreme level. She will use all sorts of Chinese remedies and things that worked for her as a kid before seeking medical help.

Josh Ortiz said...

Dure does not want to take his children to a doctor because he is uneducated and does not know of germs and pathogens that are the cause of his childrens ailments. There superstitious beliefs will be the cause of their own undoing, modern medicine can work wonders! I would tell my mother if she gave me home remedies that she is not a doctor and that she needs to show me her degree before i trust her so called medicines.

Justin Corns said...

He feels like the cause for their illness is supernatural so a medical doctor couldn't really help that situation. Someone should refer him to a good witchdoctor. Or the Ghost-busters..

Just the fact that the deathless man couldn't (surprise, surprise) die, and the cousin, acting in death, is similar to the deathless man.

A friend of mines family only uses natural remedies and hardly ever uses medications anymore and they're all super healthy. I personally believe natural medicines could be just as if not more so effective then today's remedies, but that's a debate for a different time/

Gabby Parisi said...

I think Dure is superstitious and ignorant. He wont take his kids to the doctor because he believes they wont get better. Instead he thinks they have to find their cousins dead body.

I have never known anyone who used natural remedies though i do believe they work,

Tessa Savino said...

think Dure refuses to take his children to the doctor because he doesnt want people to judge him. He also doesnt want people or even his kids to think he is poor, or even a bad father.

In my family the best way to get rid of a cold is to just lay in bed and drink water and eat soup. it always works.

William Floss said...

Dure is so adamant about not taking his kids to see a doctor because of his superstitious belief that if they find the cousins body in the vineyard they will be healed but also because he thinks his home remedies could heal the kids. My favorite home remedie is hot jello. I make jello like normal but drink the hot liquid instead of chilling it.